increasingly desperate assad regime might turn to chemical weapons. or might lose control of them to one of the many groups that are now operating within syria. >> secretary of state clinton's concern as nbc reports that syria is loading its bombs with chemical weapons. welcome to you both. this is pretty serious, isn't it, nick? you've just been in syria. is it actually news, in the sense of this is the first we heard of this? or are the pentagon briefing, this is a reality? >> have have been reports already, that syria has weaponized its nerve gas already into scud missiles, into artillery and into bombs. these have been going on, in fact, i noticed cnn two days ago had reported something similar. there seems to be more reports that chemicals for nerve gas are being united. there team seems to be more reports of them mixing. that's pretty alarming. >> i remember covering back in britain, the iraq war buildup. and we had almost exactly the same pattern. bad guy has chemical weapons about to use them on his people. we have to do something. turned out to be a lot of twadle. how do we know

been specifically drawn. if assad tries to use chemical weapons on his people, america will answer. two-fold. will assad do this as a last hoorah. and what will america do if it comes to it? >> i don't think we're being duped by the administration. there's a difference from 2003 in iraq. and the bush administration was eager to go into iraq. these days, the last thing the obama administration wants to do is go into iraq. in terms of will syria actually use them? i don't think we have any idea. what we do know, is they're not useful militarily. they're helpful in an negotiation, about getting them out. it's hard to see how they advance his cause. >> assad would face complete obliteration if he does this. and some say he wants asylum in venezuela or whatever. he's not a stupid man. why would he risk the wrath of the world ascending on him? >> it's hard to see how this advances his cause, except as part of the negotiation. if you're trying to get a better deal for your family, then, maybe it's useful. >> would this create an internal coup, with his background? i don't know how sane he